If LEO asks if you know the time, remember that that's a yes or no question. This may be difficult to do, especially since you may be facing serious criminal charges and huge expenses yourself. To LE, there are no other acceptable outcomes. (There is even a website that contains a national database of known rats, but since it's a paid membership site, we're not recommending it here. Another tip from this book's helpful attorney: "Consider making your OWN complaint to the authorities about this 'nutball' [the person you suspect of being a snitch]. Prior to talking to you, the LE tries to learn everything there is to know about the event leading to your arrest. It can be very, very difficult to detect a snitch until it's too late. Keep groups small. ROBIN VAN LONKHUIJSEN/AFP/Getty Images. 6ix9ine Snitching refers to a series of memes parodying rapper Daniel "6ix9ine" Hernandez exposing details on the Nine Trey Bloods gang, including his claims that rappers Jim Jones and Cardi B are gang members. Ask Bradley Manning. Snitches are famously unreliable: A 2004 study by the Northwestern University Law School's Center on Wrongful Convictions reveals that 46 percent of wrongful death penalty convictions are due to. You should resist the temptation to babble nervously (very difficult for some of us). They may promise to "help" you if you agree to become an informant. That is one big reason you should heed the earlier advice and NOT TALK TO POLICE AT ALL. But as always, there are no guarantees. Again, this seems like something a savvy person would already understand but, since we're trying to explain these things to ignorant fools (i.e. You might be sitting there worrying about what your mother would think if you went to jail. The Throwaways A New Yorker article on young, naive snitches who were murdered because the cops they were pressured into working for didn't give a rat's butt about them. If you are a high-value target, if you know or associate with high value targets, or if your activities rise to the level of interest that police want to question you, LE agencies employ an interrogation method known as the Reid Technique. Redeem Now Buffering Snitches & Rats (Interlude) 21 Savage 2 years ago Hip Hop 1.46M 15.4K 306 21 Savage Verified 1.46M 261 Follow Report All we can say is, if you want to go that way, make damned sure the rat has actually reformed first and can prove it through actions, not mere words. Since, as one wag observed, the first snitch arose shortly after the first secret, history offers us lots and lots of examples of how groups have handled the betrayers in their midst. Some typical things snitches and/or agents provocateurs do: This ultra-basic piece of advice goes back at least to the agitators of the 1960s. While a number of blogs have reported that it's false news and both rappers have seemingly denied the allegation as well, papers have been leaked that indicate otherwise. For example, there's also what we'll call the "accidental snitch" though idiot snitch might be more appropriate. Just because we talk about them as lesser beings doesn't mean some of them aren't tough as nails fighters and brawlers. If you're arrested and more than one person in your circle might join you, the only way to avoid The Prisoner's Dilemma is to decide in advance that you WILL NOT TALK and make sure all your associates are well schooled in their legal right to keep silent. Fun and games. Former DAs and former public defenders are a good first choice. He'll tell you he wants to help you. We'll say it again: your best bet is just to get away from the snitch and take protective measures as described above. "A 'snitch' is someone minding other folks' business to find information they can sell for a price or trade for some other form of compensation. You can do this quietly perhaps just by moving meetings and failing to inform the person of the new place. It could even help you avoid being pressured into becoming a snitch yourself. When you make your first entry, write the time an event happened in the left margin. Rehabilitate and take the snitch back into your circle. You aim to commit violence against innocent people. Start a 'Facts, Acts and Circumstantial file.' Justice William Brennan dissented, warning that the decision could empower law enforcement agents to 'round up and jail all 'predisposed' individuals.'". Your chair is the hard one, in the corner, furthest from the door, and behind some type of barrier, like a desk. That's quite impressive. Snitches & Rats (Interlude) by 21 Savage Limited Time Offer: Get 50% off the first year of our best annual plan for artists with unlimited uploads, releases, and insights. If so, have a plausible excuse if you can. The rest of your life if you do snitch Again, we are very, very squeamish about the idea of turning any non-violent, non-thieving person into to any law-enforcement agency. Back in Soviet Russia, twin brothers were born. They were married on the same day, and raised their families next door to each other in the same apartment building. Each of us met with some of these people and called a 'secret' meeting. Some lawyers in some circumstances will advise a client to go ahead and accept an offer to snitch in exchange for more lenient treatment. They detail how they Snitch verb (transitive) To inform on, especially in betrayal of others. Obviously, this isn't true of everybody who gets busted or otherwise becomes the target of a snitch. Always, always make sure that you and the other "on the up and up" members of your group remain on record as NOT advocating illegal, and in particular violently illegal, activities. It wouldn't kill them, but everyone who saw a former activist lurching down the street on destroyed knees knew what he was. Also, remember that the Internet is the greatest snitch out there. Read and heed it. If not, you may not have a snitch, but you have an untrustworthy person, for sure. Every movement, posture and expression has a meaning to LE. When rats play, they make sounds similar to laughter. He then grew up to study and employ the Reid Technique in his profession as an auditor/investigator. Unprepared for bad things happening to them, Loudmouthed or prone to blat information without thinking, Prone to believe that "nice" cops really do want to "help" them (yes, it's another form of being overly naive and trusting, but it bears repeating because if you get caught because you trusted a rat you're more likely to turn around and trust that rat's handlers), Very good at rationalizing their own less-than-stellar behavior. Appendix 2: Some Commonsense OpSec The years go by, and the brothers find themselves as old men, sitting on a park bench, sharing a bottle of vodka. I would never rat out my friend." "If someone calls you a snitch in jail, that can get you beaten up, it can get you shanked, it can get you killed ," an undercover inmate named Brooke said. Checks for electronic surveillance are only effective for the time they are being done, and are only effective as they are being done if you are sure of the person(s) doing the sweep. Literally husbands couldn't trust their wives. Even an innocent and harmless misstatement can be twisted into a prison sentence for you (search on "Martha Stewart prison" for an example). This is. and the person replies, "No," then they can never, ever bust you. FIRST RULE: Learn and practice good security consciousness We're not sure where the word snitch comes from, although we do know that snitches have been snitching for a very long time. If you get in trouble because of a snitch, it might help your defense. rat snitch spy stool pigeon traitor turncoat weasel blow the whistle verbinform on finger rat sell down the river sell out snitch spill the beans squawk squeal weasel confess verbadmit, confirm acknowledge affirm allow assert attest aver avow blow blurt out chirp clue in come clean come out concede confide declare disclose He'll give you two options, you planned what happened or it was just a one-time thing. The difference is, at least a snitch is human, but a rat is a f***** rat, period." In addition to Morgan Freeman, Savage Mode II includes features . LEO has been trained in what every action and movement mean. The KGB used to call it "the sparrow trick"; get a red-blooded heterosexual male up close with an attentive, manipulative female and said male will eventually whisper all manner of secrets into her ear. You are going to have to be careful, brave, and more than a little bit lucky to handle the situation well. Some may be blabbermouths or edgy types who are walking stupidly into the snitch's trap. 1)Rats are medium-sized rodents with a long tail. Although some might consider the following to be overkill, MJR also has experience facing opponents in court and offers this brief primer on taking the kind of notes that can guide you through a very tough grilling by police or prosecutors. Since events in the episode take place in 2004, Petrille's status as a rat stretches across 23 years. This explains, in graphic detail, with examples, about how police will twist your words and/or lie about you if you say anything at all to them. But that brings up a related subject. A person joins your group and starts stirring up trouble and creating divisions. Too much direct eye contact? All throughout, LE will do everything they can to keep you from denying your "guilt." Encrypt your cute cat jokes and your discussions of last night's favorite TV show (that way you don't call special attention to your most confidential exchanges). ago. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Because once they get you to start talking, they're trained in how to keep you talking. The damage a false accusation of snitching can do is horrifying. Wongo . There are people who believe that some snitches especially young, inexperienced people who get in over their heads, get in legal trouble, and are intimidated into becoming snitches should be forgiven, rehabilitated, and eventually brought back into the fold of trust. Good luck "proving your innocence" if some liar says you were part of a drug deal, laundered money, plotted to blow up a bridge, or asked him to help you murder somebody. Do not do anything in that person's presence or within that person's knowledge that you wouldn't do in front of your mother. If you already have an attorney you like and trust, but who doesn't do criminal law, you can ask who he or she would recommend. But, sadly, almost everyone I asked responded, "Don't mention me!". Often the victims of snitches have committed "crimes" that are much less serious than those of the snitch himself. Sometimes they get everything they need from some anonymous person who makes false accusations via a tips hotline. After all, you're just a snitch. Worse, prosecutors may threaten to bring charges against those you love. This is the person who simply can't keep her mouth shut about illegal or controversial activities. A lawyer who consulted on this book says: "When dealing with police, prosecutors or their agents, do NOT base your theory-of-the-game on TV, movies, or other sources. Or perhaps not so briefly; torture may be involved first.". IBA starts the moment of your first contact with LE. Both Jim and Heidi Hogshire spent three days in jail. Within your group, talk about them only to people who have a need to know. Don't gossip on the phone. Facts are the time, date, occasion, incident, characteristics of the person(s). Dangerous myths about snitches and undercover agents I was changing buses in downtown Cincinnati when I saw that there was a hemp rally about to begin. We keep saying that. What do you do? What's the difference between a snitch and a rat? A friend suddenly starts pushing you to do or advise on illegal things. You've seen good cop/bad cop on TV, well, this is it in real life. He'll talk quietly. Snitches prey on the naive and unsuspecting and on misplaced friendship. naked mole rat, (Heterocephalus glaber), burrowing member of the rodent family Bathyergidae, named for its wrinkled pinkish skin and hairless bodily appearance. (Note: This item also appears in Appendix 2, where you will find details on how to do this, along with many other commonsense OpSec tips. As one former government agent pointed out after reviewing a draft of this book, ruining activist groups is "at least one of the auxiliary functions of snitches.". Repeat as necessary. Don't say anything on the phone you don't want to hear in open court. It could also mean the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, or a host of other state or federal agencies. You have a brain: USE IT. He looked the part but things just did not add up. They may pretend to be your friend. As verbs the difference between snitch and rat is that snitch is to steal, quickly and quietly while rat is to betray someone and tell their secret to an authority or an enemy; to turn someone in, bewray. Later, when it comes out that the entire plot was a fiction created by an agent provocateur who got a few marginal members to go along with a scheme the government itself cooked up, hardly anyone notices. You're scared, you're cocky, you're defensive. And finally let's never forget some snitches play on that most basic instinct of all S.E.X. The lines between "mere" snitches and agents provocateurs are blurring. Plus, you are now subject to arrest for new charges, usually, Lying to LE or Obstruction, indictable crimes, and you've done so on tape. It's sadly true. They'll make wild, baseless accusations anything to get a response. This snitch is often a legitimate member of a group or social circle who continues to be active while giving information to the police. These days, law enforcement at all levels -- from the local cop shop to obscure federal agencies -- uses snitches to trap ordinary people. noun. This comes from "just waiting," who also contributed the excellent primer on interrogation that you'll find in the appendices. They are trying to frighten you. Sitting here, safely reading this booklet, you might very well say to yourself, "I'm a good person. Y'all need to listen to that sh*t though 'cause that sh*t is facts. Do you agree that criminal Informants are cut from an untrustworthy cloth. (Even then you may still get busted and/or beat up, but you'll be creating a case in your favor that might come in useful later.). What to put in the notebook to make it legal. They also want to stay dry during rainy and cold seasons, which is why they tend to come indoors during fall and winter months. In the 1980s and 1990s, the African National Congress punished perceived collaborators with the monstrous method called "necklacing." In 2022 . Assess your undertaking from a security point of view; understand your vulnerabilities; assess your allies and your adversaries as objectively as you can; don't underestimate the opposition and don't take chances. He'll tell you he's been watching and that to him, you don't seem to be the kind of person who could do something like what you're accused of. In game theory, according to Wikipedia, " the logical decision leads each to betray the other, even though their individual 'prize' would be greater if they cooperated." Always maintain a duplicate off site in a safe place. But they're among the most common ones. Then another cop (who may be present at the same time or who may come in later) will pretend to sympathize with you and want to "help" you. Then, after a personal dispute with fellow writer Jim Hogshire and Hogshire's wife (a "he said-she said" encounter whose facts are known only to the three who were present), Black did the unthinkable. These aren't the only types of snitches. If you get arrested, DO NOT TALK. He testified for the prosecution about the Bloods, Jim Jones and Cardi B. A snitch is often either a real scumbag who's in the pay of police or a formerly decent person trying to save herself (or family members or friends) from a long prison sentence by getting others to commit crimes. On yet another hand, you realize that if you both remain silent, you both may go free but you have absolutely no idea what your companion is doing and the cops have given you both quite a lot of incentive to rat each other out. Interesting Facts About Rats: For the "Mousenthusiasts" 12 Rodent Facts and Stats to Make you Jump off the Chair 1- Batman and Friends - Are rats nocturnal? It can reveal who's trustworthy and who's not. The LEO saw them last tour. A very humane anarchist, Tom Knapp, took this position when young anti-drug-war activist Stacy Litz was arrested and pressured into becoming a drug informant. You're far less susceptible to manipulation once you understand how the manipulation works. Steve explains: "Three of us who fairly trusted each other wondered how bad we were compromised and decided to try a test. They're just possibilities: Spread the word. 2. No book is a substitute for common sense and healthy skepticism. However, if you're very sure a person is a rat and you want to take further steps to render the snitch ineffective or miserable, here are some milder, but potentially effective, tactics. Okay, so you find yourself under arrest because of a snitch. If possible, conduct some careful, subtle investigation to see if your suspected snitch's background and life matches her claims. Yes, we know that snitches destroy trust, so be very careful when choosing one or two others to confide in. Use them as an aid to your own brain and your own gut, but understand that when you organize with others to do controversial things, you very probably will have at least one snitch in your midst. However, now you've got other people to worry about. About anything. an instant and easy case against virtually anyone they want to target. "), They may actually be your friend but a friend who has gotten into legal trouble and has turned to snitching to save themselves from a long prison sentence. Do NOT talk to cops. Please read the article on the Reid interrogation techniqueTM that appears toward the end of this booklet. Each page should be numbered. Start a 'Facts, Acts, and Circumstantial file.' What makes snitches so dangerous? We could write an encyclopedia defining them. Never mind that, in our legal system, the government is supposed to have to prove your guilt; that's become a quaint notion. Jackpot, he'll use her later, in his interrogation. 5. PART THREE: WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET BUSTED? They'll give you scenarios in which to minimize your participation and guilt. Rats are thin-tailed, medium-size rodents that originated in Asia and Australia but are now found all over the world. In the long run, however, it was Black who paid the bigger price. While still saying it's a bad idea, it did have the effect of discouraging the general populace from working with the enemy. They've heard it all. Now, some countries that knew the horror of snitch culture forbid or limit the use of snitches. Being a rat doesn't diminish their ability to fight, it just changed their tactics and focus temporarily.". If you agree to snitch on your friends or associates, know in advance that you're going to have a big price to pay. I will not talk without my lawyer present. A good lawyer will rip a snitch apart and develop reasonable doubt in the eyes of a judge or jury. If the date changes you should start a new date with the weather. Only one fate awaited a snitch who got caught: death. If you can do so without violating your state's law, quietly begin video or audiotaping all interactions with the suspected person. Back in the late sixties or thereabouts, there was a federal case in which Treasury agents latched on to a printer who was willing to fantasize about doing some counterfeiting. They often play upon a normal human desire to want to DO something - which is likely why, if you're a political person, you're a member of the group in the first place. Snitches damage individuals, organizations, and movements even before they actually rat on anybody. Not all of them are bad, but many of them are overworked and/or just geared to processing cases as fast as they can. Yet people still get entrapped by ignoring it: "You can always tell the FBI agent. Remember, you can ask for a lawyer at any time during the interrogation, do not be afraid to do so! A stranger or casual acquaintance tries to get you to do or advise on illegal activities. It's also worth noting: One of the other snitches who helped bring down the Hutaree was a mouthy radio-show host called Hal Turner. Sometimes there are practical reasons: you're guilty as hell, the cops have the evidence to prove it, and your lawyer thinks that cooperating would be the best way for you to avoid a long prison sentence. Post the snitch's photo, address, or other personal details online unless that violates a law in your area. rat facts snitches. They tarnish otherwise legitimate political movements. Then there's the type of snitch the British call a grass and old American gangsters might have called a stool pigeon. There's not much you can do about this person. Title Page Keep your mailing lists, donor lists and personal phone books away from light-fingered people. funny Amazing Facts #shorts #short #youtubeshortsFunny Facts |#funnySome funny peoples deeds#shorts #youtubeshorts #short #ytshorts #yts. Sometimes pressure to snitch is just a gambit and nothing terrible will happen to you for refusing. Article continues below advertisement. Little or no direct eye contact? What happens if you refuse to snitch? If you use email, encrypt it. 2. They identify and exploit weaknesses you didn't know you had. That mouthful means that it is okay to copy and distribute this booklet for non-commercial purposes as long as you attribute it to the original source. ("Hey, we just run a little of this 'stuff' across the border and it'll make us a lot of money that we can use to do good. Paid agents provocateurs talk or trick otherwise harmless people into committing crimes. Fun Facts. You are a non-violent person engaged in any activity that may be controversial, illegal, or merely "sensitive" or unconventional. It became unpleasant when the Feds, cops and such realized it was a trick. The noun form has been in use since the 17th century; originally with meanings such as "nose," or " a blow on the nose," and in the 18th century taking on its "tattletale" sense. Pressure on a family member, fear of jail time, exposure of a dark secret anybody can be turned. You or someone you care about may end up in prison, broke, or otherwise badly hurt. And thousands of them use snitches. Despite being a printer, he didn't have the special plates required to print money. dolomic917 6 mo. And no doubt homosexual attraction can blind eyes and loosen lips just as effectively. He writes: When preparing a "Facts, Acts, and, Circumstantial" list you are going to have to take notes about what is going on. Their nyms appear with their contributions. After you've been busted and are standing around at the police station is NOT a good time to be leafing through the yellow pages. Unless you actually want to be arrested to become a test case (a dangerous but sometimes useful tactic), then do everything you can to avoid giving anyone ammunition to tarnish you or your cause. But the simple fact is that anybody can break under the right kind of pressure and government agents are trained in sophisticated terror and manipulation tactics. (We'll have more on this in Part Three and in the appendixes.
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